In the crazy Convid period I was in the supermarket when all of a sudden a massive fight errupted over toilet paper. Well bloody hell a stack of toilet rolls fell on me.
I ended up ok though, just a bit of soft tissue damage.😃
here in nyc during the nastiest parts of the plandemic, i had to go 60+ blocks to find a supermarket where i wouldn't get hassled or thrown out for being unmuzzled. if there was an upside, it was that i found a delightful place owned by a guy from burkina faso and a whole new set of retailers i could support for their noncompliance.
the burkina faso guy plays awful african pop music over the PA. it's all autotuned just like american corporate pop. cultural imperialism is pervasive.
Sometime in the last week, I was at a small hardware store, one I frequent regularly for work purposes. And I overheard an older gentleman there discussing with one of the store managers about myocarditis and vaccine exemptions being declined. The rising rates of cancers etcetera.
It's a little presumptuous, but I almost wonder if perhaps he was there at the talk you gave at the rotary club.
I thought to myself, finally the dots are being connected by the general population. Yay.
My celebrations were only short lived when a friend of mine later told me that the protesters were all mislead by Russian propaganda. In a seemingly simple way of explaining what happened as if it were all so simple.
Music is second only to the written word as means of influencing people, and yet that aspect is generally overlooked by people who study the art of persuasion, AKA propaganda. The same can be said of motion pictures, where at least some attention has been paid to the effects, generally falling under the rubric of 'predictive programming.' The same can be said of television, where the effect is even more invasive due to constant voluntary exposure.
Marshal McLuhan addressed this phenomenon in the 1960s, as did Vance Packard in his 1957 book 'The Hidden Persuaders.' It's worth revisiting those authors and comparing what they said back then to what's happening today.
At a personal level, we typically don't ask ourselves why we prefer one style of music over another. We just listen and either do or don't enjoy what we hear. We also don't ask ourselves why (or why not) our tastes change over the years, even to the point where we cringe over something we used to think was the cat's pyjamas. This can be stated as a general principle: people tend not to question the source of their beliefs or tastes, they simply accept them as if they were 'natural' and not the result of cultural conditioning since birth. This is reflected in how certain types of music are identified with certain beliefs, for example, country music as an expression of conservative thought, or hip-hop as an expression of (neo)liberalism.
I could write several books about this (that no one would read) but it's easier to just hijack the conversation whenever I get an opening! Seriously though, I study the phenomenon and I'm constantly amazed not just at how music influences others, but the effect it has had on me over the years. I consider myself fortunate to have broken the spell that western popular music held over me, and I'm now attempting as a self-described 'musical engineer' to build bridges between cultures so we can better understand our common humanity, the hope being that the more we know about each other, the less likely we are to come into conflict. Music opens that door, or at least it has for me. At present I'm exploring the post-Soviet world. As an example of what you can encounter in that world, I offer this, which may surprise you.
Would it surprise you to know that hijabs are way down the list of women's priorities in the Muslim world? But why not let them speak for themselves? They can do that.
Note the high level of security. She is literally risking her life.
The world's changing. Theirs and ours. If we look beyond superficial differences for the thread that ties us all together I'm sure we'll find it. For me, it's in the music and the songs, not so much in the way people dress, although that can be fun too.
The hijab is a uniform meant to oppress women and it's something that they have been subjected to wear since before the medieval world existed. The fashion of those times ain't fashionable no more! No, it doesn't surprise me to know that it's way down on the list of Muslim women's priorities; it's accompanied by other restrictions and all these put together are institutionalised forms of injustice meant to marginalise women, period. These aren't superficial differences. If Muslim women knew how to speak up for themselves and were allowed to speak up for themselves, they would do so. Aren't we all here to assert that we look at monsters and call them out for what they are, monsters, instead of cuddly, government-approved plush toys? And listen: wear a hijab for a month, also follow all the other restrictions aimed at Muslim women, and perhaps you won't classify these things as "superficial differences." If a mask robs one's identity, a hijab kills one's identity.
"If Muslim women knew how to speak up for themselves and were allowed to speak up for themselves, they would do so."
Do you realize how condescending that sounds? Women in Islam can't speak for themselves so you have to do it for them? How very 'woke' of you.
Did you even look at the videos I posted? They ARE speaking up and taking far more risks than you. But what are they speaking up about? Not headscarves. The first one is telling you to get off our backs on the issue. The second is about economic opportunities, and incidentally, A-Wa are Sephardic Jews from Yemen. I was hoping someone would catch that because it would tell me they're actually paying attention and not just parroting a party line.
The third... well, Seeta Qasemi (Afghani singer in exile) is one of the most important voices for women in Islam - her songs are heard by millions and she's under constant threat of death, but I'll bet you never even heard of her.
"wear a hijab for a month, also follow all the other restrictions aimed at Muslim women, and perhaps you won't classify these things as "superficial differences."
It may surprise you to know that headscarves (which can be worn as a hijab) predate Islam by centuries. It's hot dry and dusty in most of the Middle East and Central Asia, and there's not much water for drinking much less bathing. A headscarf (worn by men and women) keeps the sun off, keeps your hair clean, and in the case of women who traditionally wear long hair, keeps it in order. Look closely at the video of the concert I posted. Headscarves are the norm in Tajikistan because they're convenient, not because they're required. Granted the Koran advises women to be modest, but even that aspect is debated in Muslim circles. Our own Bible exhorts us to slay the Hittites (Deuteronomy 20:17). Is anyone out looking for Hittites to slay these days? The Bible is full of stuff like that, and yet it gets a pass vs. the Koran which some people think burning is a sign of legitimate social protest and not a grave insult to Muslims everywhere. Book burners. Where else have we seen that?
I'm not one to tell people how to live their lives. That should be evident from what I've written, but you really need to think about this stuff a bit more deeply because frankly, your attitude seems very colonial.
Sorry I have to say this. No matter how gracious, and being a great signer, any woman wearing a vale (of shame) is painfull for me to look at. This is one other thing we should not accept in the name of free choice
So much for building bridges I guess. Here's a thought. If you'd just heard the song without the visuals would you have a different opinion? It's not a vale (sic) BTW, it's a hijab, and no one forces women to wear one in Russia. To prove the point, a Chechen wedding:
Building bridges between cultures is a different matter than speaking up for the marginalisation of women. A mask robs identities. A hijab kills identities.
So you say, but have you talked to any Muslim women to get their opinion? It might surprise you to learn that many women consider hijab an article of faith. Would you insist that Sikhs remove their turbans when, for example they join the RCMP, enter a Canadian Legion or ride a motorcycle? That's been contended in the past and was put to rest under the religious freedom doctrine embedded in our constitution. I think most western nations have that feature. If we uphold that for men, then why not women? Why do we insist they lose the hijab when it has the same meaning for them as the turban for Sikhs?
It may surprise you to know that full hijab is not a requirement in any Muslim nation. A headscarf is sufficient in Iran, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States. Everywhere else, it's a choice whether to cover one's head or not, in fact hijab, niqab and burqa are banned in Tajikistan. If you're caught selling them you get fined and your merchandise is seized. From time to time the army even visits the more fundamentalist parts of the country and forces men to shave their beards (also an Islamic symbol). Do you agree with that?
This issue is far more nuanced than you may realize. I've had many opportunities to talk to Muslims on this and other issues. It's a non-starter for many women, especially the religiously observant. I don't follow western prescriptions about how people in other lands ought to live their lives. Look at the mess we're already in. Is that something worth advocating? If you believe in the sovereignty of nations, the right of people to determine their own path in their own land, then how is condemning them for a practice you barely understand respecting their sovereignty, national, or individual?
Look at the protests in Iran for example. The core issue is economic, and yet western NGOs are encouraging young women to burn their headscarves (young women rarely wear hijab in Ian) with all the risks that entails. To me that's no different than John McCain extolling the virtues of western democracy in the Maidan in 2014, or Victoria Nuland handing out cookies at the same event. A complete violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and yet there we were, cheering them on. How did that work out?
Incidentally, those young women in Iran represent the majority of university students. That's right, there are more women enrolled in Iranian universities than there are men. That's not to say they don't face obstacles, but progress is definitely being made.
Your position strikes me as typical of western attitudes towards Islam. You see a cultural artifact as a form of oppression, and yet you look the other way at far more egregious practices of other faiths, such as (dare I mention?) circumcision of infants. There's a real third rail if you want to step on it, but I bet you won't. I bet you've never even thought about it because no one's attempted to influence your thinking in that direction. That's a lede to another question, BTW, which is this: Where are you getting your thoughts and opinions from? Are they really your own, or are you just following popular opinion?
It's women who are used by authoritarian sources, women who have been blinded by oppression, that speak up for these restrictions. These women are followers of the system. My grandmother, her sisters, and other relatives wore hijabs, although they tossed them in the garbage the first chance they got. I am more immersed in certain cultures than I care to let you know. I also have a damn good grasp of history, the result of years of study. I don't need McCain (may he rest in peace) nor any other politician to explain history to me. This conversation is over, unless, of course, you experiment with the hijab garb for a month or a year, or ten years, in which case you may share your opinion of the experience and perhaps even post pictures.
How very gracious of you. Also very kind of you to share your deep knowledge of the subject without inquiring as to how I came by mine. I think that's called 'appeal to authority' but then what would I know?
At least those "oldies" were created mostly by real musical instruments and talented musicians and poets rather than "processed" computers vomit, singers who try to sound just like one another and repetitious lyrics . The songs are familiar friends to me and ALWAYS make me feel like dancing and singing along. How bad can that be??? How bad can you feel singing and dancing???
I recently moved, and the supermarket where I now shop plays no music over their speakers. I don't mind it at all. Also, I have yet to see music videos played at any market. Which is it, do I shop at the right or at the wrong places? I'd like to admit I don't know who Big Red -- whoops ... Simply Red is, and I have never heard Shania Twain sing. But I know a little something of who she is and I am elated that she's not related to Mark (Samuel Clemens) Twain!
In the stores where music or music videos are being played, I always wonder if any subliminal advertising messages are hidden in these broadcasts. Something of a duration that's seconds long but can serve as an effective selling tool.
At any rate, where I used to shop (on weekday evenings), they would play the music of Ella Fitzgerald, Billy Holiday, Frank Sinatra and the like. One time I heard Sabor a Mi being sung by Eydie Gormé and I stopped in my tracks. I stood where I was and listened to the entire song. Other times I hummed along with familiar tunes. The result was that I would get in a good mood and linger at the store for much longer than necessary. Perhaps I bought a few things I didn't need, like more tea, or fragrant soap ... expensive fragrant soap, and then why not get an extra loaf of that wheat bread? And some nice cheese? Thanks, Mr Sinatra! That music was geared to persons older than I, but there was a retirement community nearby. I assumed the store liked to cater to customers who lived there. Except, they hooked me, as well!
As for masks and isolation partitions: Recently, I spent some time visiting a relative who was hospitalised. Although my visits were not happy occasions, I felt great relief, a relief tantamount to joy, that we were no longer being forced to wear masks! Nevertheless, masks were available, and security personel at the hospital entrance would still offer them. It felt wonderful to say "No thanks, no mask."
Perhaps this seemingly endless madness we are going through will one day be talked of with contempt. I hope this comes true, Doc!!!
Thanks for this, it is very encouraging. (Ha, my supermarket plays stuff such as Pattie Smith's "Beds Are Burning" -- not sure how it affects me, but maybe I've tossed an extra jar of peanut butter into the shopping cart once in a while.)
I've told salesmen at a car dealership to turn off the music they were playing. I knew that their music was specific for disrupting the thought process of the people looking at cars. It was loud and obnoxious, and enough to cause a headache. There is no entertainment value to it. It was a ploy to screw over the consumer.
Hopefully these fabulous climate change memes have copied properly to put a smile on everyone’s face. Wry smiles no doubt!! Share and drop more “ seeds” like you have done NZDoc with your presentation to a Rotary Club.
oh, thank you. I initially thought "not stoned during this occasion' to mean that people did not throw stones at him as a form of punishment such as occurs in certain countries when they feel someone should be punished to death...
In the crazy Convid period I was in the supermarket when all of a sudden a massive fight errupted over toilet paper. Well bloody hell a stack of toilet rolls fell on me.
I ended up ok though, just a bit of soft tissue damage.😃
What madness!
hoping your store still takes cash https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/09/do-smart-supermarkets-herald-the-end-of-shopping-as-we-know-it
here in nyc during the nastiest parts of the plandemic, i had to go 60+ blocks to find a supermarket where i wouldn't get hassled or thrown out for being unmuzzled. if there was an upside, it was that i found a delightful place owned by a guy from burkina faso and a whole new set of retailers i could support for their noncompliance.
the burkina faso guy plays awful african pop music over the PA. it's all autotuned just like american corporate pop. cultural imperialism is pervasive.
Yes. I always use cash there!
Sometime in the last week, I was at a small hardware store, one I frequent regularly for work purposes. And I overheard an older gentleman there discussing with one of the store managers about myocarditis and vaccine exemptions being declined. The rising rates of cancers etcetera.
It's a little presumptuous, but I almost wonder if perhaps he was there at the talk you gave at the rotary club.
I thought to myself, finally the dots are being connected by the general population. Yay.
My celebrations were only short lived when a friend of mine later told me that the protesters were all mislead by Russian propaganda. In a seemingly simple way of explaining what happened as if it were all so simple.
Oh this bipolar world we live in.
Music is second only to the written word as means of influencing people, and yet that aspect is generally overlooked by people who study the art of persuasion, AKA propaganda. The same can be said of motion pictures, where at least some attention has been paid to the effects, generally falling under the rubric of 'predictive programming.' The same can be said of television, where the effect is even more invasive due to constant voluntary exposure.
Marshal McLuhan addressed this phenomenon in the 1960s, as did Vance Packard in his 1957 book 'The Hidden Persuaders.' It's worth revisiting those authors and comparing what they said back then to what's happening today.
At a personal level, we typically don't ask ourselves why we prefer one style of music over another. We just listen and either do or don't enjoy what we hear. We also don't ask ourselves why (or why not) our tastes change over the years, even to the point where we cringe over something we used to think was the cat's pyjamas. This can be stated as a general principle: people tend not to question the source of their beliefs or tastes, they simply accept them as if they were 'natural' and not the result of cultural conditioning since birth. This is reflected in how certain types of music are identified with certain beliefs, for example, country music as an expression of conservative thought, or hip-hop as an expression of (neo)liberalism.
I could write several books about this (that no one would read) but it's easier to just hijack the conversation whenever I get an opening! Seriously though, I study the phenomenon and I'm constantly amazed not just at how music influences others, but the effect it has had on me over the years. I consider myself fortunate to have broken the spell that western popular music held over me, and I'm now attempting as a self-described 'musical engineer' to build bridges between cultures so we can better understand our common humanity, the hope being that the more we know about each other, the less likely we are to come into conflict. Music opens that door, or at least it has for me. At present I'm exploring the post-Soviet world. As an example of what you can encounter in that world, I offer this, which may surprise you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV1Fog6xeV8
Not what you were expecting, right?
Ladies, burn those damned restrictive, confining, punishing uniforms imposed upon you by a misogynous patriarchy.
And do what? Dance to a hip-hop beat? OK then...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOX9O_kVPeo
ooops.... didn't see that coming:)
Would it surprise you to know that hijabs are way down the list of women's priorities in the Muslim world? But why not let them speak for themselves? They can do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD90UbVXZSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyB3JziEH40
This was a number one hit across Central Asia BTW. Here she is in concert in Tajikistan on a national holiday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfdTy7KK6PM
Note the high level of security. She is literally risking her life.
The world's changing. Theirs and ours. If we look beyond superficial differences for the thread that ties us all together I'm sure we'll find it. For me, it's in the music and the songs, not so much in the way people dress, although that can be fun too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPvrQBLuN40
The hijab is a uniform meant to oppress women and it's something that they have been subjected to wear since before the medieval world existed. The fashion of those times ain't fashionable no more! No, it doesn't surprise me to know that it's way down on the list of Muslim women's priorities; it's accompanied by other restrictions and all these put together are institutionalised forms of injustice meant to marginalise women, period. These aren't superficial differences. If Muslim women knew how to speak up for themselves and were allowed to speak up for themselves, they would do so. Aren't we all here to assert that we look at monsters and call them out for what they are, monsters, instead of cuddly, government-approved plush toys? And listen: wear a hijab for a month, also follow all the other restrictions aimed at Muslim women, and perhaps you won't classify these things as "superficial differences." If a mask robs one's identity, a hijab kills one's identity.
"If Muslim women knew how to speak up for themselves and were allowed to speak up for themselves, they would do so."
Do you realize how condescending that sounds? Women in Islam can't speak for themselves so you have to do it for them? How very 'woke' of you.
Did you even look at the videos I posted? They ARE speaking up and taking far more risks than you. But what are they speaking up about? Not headscarves. The first one is telling you to get off our backs on the issue. The second is about economic opportunities, and incidentally, A-Wa are Sephardic Jews from Yemen. I was hoping someone would catch that because it would tell me they're actually paying attention and not just parroting a party line.
The third... well, Seeta Qasemi (Afghani singer in exile) is one of the most important voices for women in Islam - her songs are heard by millions and she's under constant threat of death, but I'll bet you never even heard of her.
"wear a hijab for a month, also follow all the other restrictions aimed at Muslim women, and perhaps you won't classify these things as "superficial differences."
It may surprise you to know that headscarves (which can be worn as a hijab) predate Islam by centuries. It's hot dry and dusty in most of the Middle East and Central Asia, and there's not much water for drinking much less bathing. A headscarf (worn by men and women) keeps the sun off, keeps your hair clean, and in the case of women who traditionally wear long hair, keeps it in order. Look closely at the video of the concert I posted. Headscarves are the norm in Tajikistan because they're convenient, not because they're required. Granted the Koran advises women to be modest, but even that aspect is debated in Muslim circles. Our own Bible exhorts us to slay the Hittites (Deuteronomy 20:17). Is anyone out looking for Hittites to slay these days? The Bible is full of stuff like that, and yet it gets a pass vs. the Koran which some people think burning is a sign of legitimate social protest and not a grave insult to Muslims everywhere. Book burners. Where else have we seen that?
I'm not one to tell people how to live their lives. That should be evident from what I've written, but you really need to think about this stuff a bit more deeply because frankly, your attitude seems very colonial.
Sorry I have to say this. No matter how gracious, and being a great signer, any woman wearing a vale (of shame) is painfull for me to look at. This is one other thing we should not accept in the name of free choice
Thank you!!!!!!!
So much for building bridges I guess. Here's a thought. If you'd just heard the song without the visuals would you have a different opinion? It's not a vale (sic) BTW, it's a hijab, and no one forces women to wear one in Russia. To prove the point, a Chechen wedding:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVI2sR6iLTs
Building bridges between cultures is a different matter than speaking up for the marginalisation of women. A mask robs identities. A hijab kills identities.
So you say, but have you talked to any Muslim women to get their opinion? It might surprise you to learn that many women consider hijab an article of faith. Would you insist that Sikhs remove their turbans when, for example they join the RCMP, enter a Canadian Legion or ride a motorcycle? That's been contended in the past and was put to rest under the religious freedom doctrine embedded in our constitution. I think most western nations have that feature. If we uphold that for men, then why not women? Why do we insist they lose the hijab when it has the same meaning for them as the turban for Sikhs?
It may surprise you to know that full hijab is not a requirement in any Muslim nation. A headscarf is sufficient in Iran, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States. Everywhere else, it's a choice whether to cover one's head or not, in fact hijab, niqab and burqa are banned in Tajikistan. If you're caught selling them you get fined and your merchandise is seized. From time to time the army even visits the more fundamentalist parts of the country and forces men to shave their beards (also an Islamic symbol). Do you agree with that?
This issue is far more nuanced than you may realize. I've had many opportunities to talk to Muslims on this and other issues. It's a non-starter for many women, especially the religiously observant. I don't follow western prescriptions about how people in other lands ought to live their lives. Look at the mess we're already in. Is that something worth advocating? If you believe in the sovereignty of nations, the right of people to determine their own path in their own land, then how is condemning them for a practice you barely understand respecting their sovereignty, national, or individual?
Look at the protests in Iran for example. The core issue is economic, and yet western NGOs are encouraging young women to burn their headscarves (young women rarely wear hijab in Ian) with all the risks that entails. To me that's no different than John McCain extolling the virtues of western democracy in the Maidan in 2014, or Victoria Nuland handing out cookies at the same event. A complete violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and yet there we were, cheering them on. How did that work out?
https://www.cnn.com/2013/12/14/world/europe/ukraine-protests/index.html
Incidentally, those young women in Iran represent the majority of university students. That's right, there are more women enrolled in Iranian universities than there are men. That's not to say they don't face obstacles, but progress is definitely being made.
Your position strikes me as typical of western attitudes towards Islam. You see a cultural artifact as a form of oppression, and yet you look the other way at far more egregious practices of other faiths, such as (dare I mention?) circumcision of infants. There's a real third rail if you want to step on it, but I bet you won't. I bet you've never even thought about it because no one's attempted to influence your thinking in that direction. That's a lede to another question, BTW, which is this: Where are you getting your thoughts and opinions from? Are they really your own, or are you just following popular opinion?
It's women who are used by authoritarian sources, women who have been blinded by oppression, that speak up for these restrictions. These women are followers of the system. My grandmother, her sisters, and other relatives wore hijabs, although they tossed them in the garbage the first chance they got. I am more immersed in certain cultures than I care to let you know. I also have a damn good grasp of history, the result of years of study. I don't need McCain (may he rest in peace) nor any other politician to explain history to me. This conversation is over, unless, of course, you experiment with the hijab garb for a month or a year, or ten years, in which case you may share your opinion of the experience and perhaps even post pictures.
"This conversation is over,"
How very gracious of you. Also very kind of you to share your deep knowledge of the subject without inquiring as to how I came by mine. I think that's called 'appeal to authority' but then what would I know?
At least those "oldies" were created mostly by real musical instruments and talented musicians and poets rather than "processed" computers vomit, singers who try to sound just like one another and repetitious lyrics . The songs are familiar friends to me and ALWAYS make me feel like dancing and singing along. How bad can that be??? How bad can you feel singing and dancing???
Good point! They are refreshingly normal!
A delightful essay!
I recently moved, and the supermarket where I now shop plays no music over their speakers. I don't mind it at all. Also, I have yet to see music videos played at any market. Which is it, do I shop at the right or at the wrong places? I'd like to admit I don't know who Big Red -- whoops ... Simply Red is, and I have never heard Shania Twain sing. But I know a little something of who she is and I am elated that she's not related to Mark (Samuel Clemens) Twain!
In the stores where music or music videos are being played, I always wonder if any subliminal advertising messages are hidden in these broadcasts. Something of a duration that's seconds long but can serve as an effective selling tool.
At any rate, where I used to shop (on weekday evenings), they would play the music of Ella Fitzgerald, Billy Holiday, Frank Sinatra and the like. One time I heard Sabor a Mi being sung by Eydie Gormé and I stopped in my tracks. I stood where I was and listened to the entire song. Other times I hummed along with familiar tunes. The result was that I would get in a good mood and linger at the store for much longer than necessary. Perhaps I bought a few things I didn't need, like more tea, or fragrant soap ... expensive fragrant soap, and then why not get an extra loaf of that wheat bread? And some nice cheese? Thanks, Mr Sinatra! That music was geared to persons older than I, but there was a retirement community nearby. I assumed the store liked to cater to customers who lived there. Except, they hooked me, as well!
As for masks and isolation partitions: Recently, I spent some time visiting a relative who was hospitalised. Although my visits were not happy occasions, I felt great relief, a relief tantamount to joy, that we were no longer being forced to wear masks! Nevertheless, masks were available, and security personel at the hospital entrance would still offer them. It felt wonderful to say "No thanks, no mask."
Perhaps this seemingly endless madness we are going through will one day be talked of with contempt. I hope this comes true, Doc!!!
Thanks for this, it is very encouraging. (Ha, my supermarket plays stuff such as Pattie Smith's "Beds Are Burning" -- not sure how it affects me, but maybe I've tossed an extra jar of peanut butter into the shopping cart once in a while.)
I've told salesmen at a car dealership to turn off the music they were playing. I knew that their music was specific for disrupting the thought process of the people looking at cars. It was loud and obnoxious, and enough to cause a headache. There is no entertainment value to it. It was a ploy to screw over the consumer.
https://substack.com/redirect/c20df20d-a05d-49c3-a6ba-5e2edc66f9f8?j=eyJ1IjoieXBzbmsifQ.zsBOODApyknC02eymjU51SeEH83DdH6nlcM1Q17L4TE
https://substack.com/redirect/954d06b4-8b40-48ee-b8ea-5686d6d3dafa?j=eyJ1IjoieXBzbmsifQ.zsBOODApyknC02eymjU51SeEH83DdH6nlcM1Q17L4TE
All these are different memes, despite showing the same address.
https://substack.com/redirect/ac906967-9bcb-4d77-97d9-5300b81a4499?j=eyJ1IjoieXBzbmsifQ.zsBOODApyknC02eymjU51SeEH83DdH6nlcM1Q17L4TE
https://substack.com/redirect/c00b3342-1570-498e-91a2-b54f42d46172?j=eyJ1IjoieXBzbmsifQ.zsBOODApyknC02eymjU51SeEH83DdH6nlcM1Q17L4TE
https://substack.com/redirect/0977eb5a-1209-46b9-a5cb-3bc4d013e700?j=eyJ1IjoieXBzbmsifQ.zsBOODApyknC02eymjU51SeEH83DdH6nlcM1Q17L4TE
https://substack.com/redirect/d04dae64-cf48-42d0-983f-9ea6836d37ad?j=eyJ1IjoieXBzbmsifQ.zsBOODApyknC02eymjU51SeEH83DdH6nlcM1Q17L4TE
Same address but differing memes!
https://substack.com/redirect/4ec34736-9dc5-4b46-ba27-d99254af7ab0?j=eyJ1IjoieXBzbmsifQ.zsBOODApyknC02eymjU51SeEH83DdH6nlcM1Q17L4TE
https://substack.com/redirect/e3655c4a-51a2-4bd4-9e89-4d16f1e51621?j=eyJ1IjoieXBzbmsifQ.zsBOODApyknC02eymjU51SeEH83DdH6nlcM1Q17L4TE
Hopefully these fabulous climate change memes have copied properly to put a smile on everyone’s face. Wry smiles no doubt!! Share and drop more “ seeds” like you have done NZDoc with your presentation to a Rotary Club.
You know you're getting old when you go shopping at London Drugs (Canadian version of Walgreens) and you hear Siouxee and the Banshees on the musak.
"I am happy to report that I was not stoned during this occasion... "
Probably wise, I doubt the Rotary club would have approved of you turning up stoned 🤔
🤣😂
oh, thank you. I initially thought "not stoned during this occasion' to mean that people did not throw stones at him as a form of punishment such as occurs in certain countries when they feel someone should be punished to death...