You must be getting sick of this, but I think you're fighting a losing battle. People are angry because they know they've been lied to their whole lives. Harmful lies. I suspect you can expect more of the same if you continue to hold this, to my mind unsustainable, line.
I know there's no such thing as a virus; I've read the so-called isolation papers right back to Enders, and I'm more than 'qualified' to read these papers and frankly they're junk. If an employee came to me (Chemical Engineering) with the quality of analysis every one of these papers show I would 1) give them a chance to get their method and analysis is order, then 2) if they proceeded with the same nonsense I'd sack them. And quick smart.
So Emanuel, sorry to say your profession has been destroyed because the people who should have done the work were corrupt and fraudulent. There it is. I'm not one of those strident types who will abuse you. Nor will I be anonymous (my substack is my name). But if anyone in your 'profession' are in my hearing and trying to push this virology pseudoscience fiction, you can be assured I will have my say. And I will be strident.
If engineers produced the same quality of 'science' as medicine, bridges would collapse, buildings topple, and planes fall out of the sky. Every day.
I also know that when I've gotten a cold or flu, from whatever cause, that vitamin c and zinc have worked wonders for symptoms and duration of illness.
And I agree completely with Poisoned kiwi. I too have looked at the evidence a lot (for two years or more more or less full time 2020-2022). Regardless of what you think of some of the no virus people the plain fact of the matter is that no virus has ever been isolated. And I’m not strident in holding that position as it’s fact.
Stefan Lanka has a hypothesis on Black Death that makes sense to me. Not based on science but on the historical record. Collapse of trade routes leading to hunger and to State violence. In addition the siege of Athens even further back which is somewhat blamed on plague but honestly starvation is the more likely culprit with war both outside and inside the walls the other contributor.
In my view viruses (previously known as germs) were invented for crowd control and for weeding out the poor. They’re associated right now with genocide. The only thing that they infect are our thoughts.
I’m loathe to put up my qualifications here as it’s not relevant so I’ll just say that the smartest man that I’ve seen on viruses likely doesn’t have any degree.
Where are you on viruses being “the tiniest of parasites”? This is supposedly the definition given in every edition of the printed Merck Manual since the 10th edition in 1961 up to and including the current 20th edition released in 2018.
Brian, I can't believe I'm still having this conversation. I knew germ theory was a fraud before covaids. It's in the language.
Re: your question. You better now define a 'parasite'.
It's a fraud. Easily provable, but takes time. Starting with the name. Virus = toxin. As for 'organism' even virology for all its fraud says a 'virus' is not living (one of the many many tells to the fraud). You might be interested in the English translation of 'scientific'. Sci enti fic. "Know that it is fiction" - https://www.webtran.eu/latin_english_translator/
Have a look at the 1953 Enders paper which got modern germ theory/virology started. More fraud. That's probably too harsh. Enders, trying to 'isolate' a 'virus', recognised there was no difference between his control and his 'virus'. I guess others ran with it.
I’ve only started looking in earnest these last few years. First time I even heard of germ vs terrain was RFK Jr’s Fauci book. Now so far I have done Dissolving Illusions, Turtles All The Way Down, Virus Mania, the Viral Delusion series, Terrain the Movie, countless pods with the bright lights of the field, and just started Can You Catch A Cold? by Dan Roytas.
That there has been unimaginable, malevolent fraud is beyond doubt. It’s the sheer omniscience, scale and full spectrum ubiquity that is incomprehensible.
Good stuff. I'm lucky. I got on to germ theory 30 years ago. And the magnitude of the frauds are far far bigger than germ theory. Have a look at my financial reset series for only one element affecting NZ directly. And the 'best' - the biggest fraud - is yet to come.
Are you a scientist? I can give you some leads to look at if you're interested, and nearly any area of science you want! Shocking (for someone like me who trained in this stuff) but true.
Thanks for the link. Will certainly check that out. Not a scientist, just a curious skeptic and lifelong lover of learning. Do please share anything you consider ammunition against that which we know has been planned and is now in motion.
Good to hear. I'm not sure who you are but I understood viruses (sic) were specific to the individual in their illness, and generally speaking, if not poisoned by an external 'influenza' also known as "influence" - like the casual 'flu jab - one generally develops illness through psychological distress. (Covid lockdowns would qualify as 'causing a virus' in the individual.)
In German New Medicine it is believed the soul faces problems that can sometimes become prolonged and stressful like a divorce for example or an ill child, a lockdown, or something more acute and painful, like the death of a loved one.
In each case of the souls distress the brain must continue to function, so places the stress in a corresponding organ. Once the psychological stressor has been resolved, the mind/heart axis - or soul - becomes freed and the organ can then heal, which presents as what we call an illness.
This isn't pseudo-science either, Ryke Hamer developed his ideas before the technology was developed to prove them. CT scans show the shock in the brain as round 'foci' which correspond to specific areas of the body. Doctor Hamer became so good at understanding what sort of soul trouble aligned with which organ that he could tell the patient what had happened just by their illnesses location.
The body's ability to heal depends on whether or not the body has enough in reserve to bounce back quickly. In our current medical chaos one discerns the physical 'recovering symptoms' as its own starting point of an illness rather than the recovery phase of a soul problem, thus it's worthy of a doctors attention... where genuine medical poisoning takes place.
A doctors diagnosis and prognosis also contributes to secondary soul shocks which also must then be resolved on top of the chemical toxicity of modern meds..
German New Medicine is pretty much what I'm (trying) to do for my poisoning. I agree with you. The "psychological stressor" is one of the biggest (probably the biggest, but I have no imperial evidence). Great comment.
Sorry but that statement is in the same category as "all swans are white." You cannot prove a negative. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Any good scientist knows this.
No. I can say "I know..." anything. But have it your way. I could have said 'the hypothesis of the existence of a virus has never been proven, all the evidence presented is pure and utter nonsense'. But neither am I going to argue the philosophy of science.
There's no point in trying to get people to question the existence of virii.
They know that it's something that they should look into, but until they actually bother, well if they don't have any questions they won't see any answers.
There's plenty of information for anyone who has an inkling that the virus thing could be a big con; a con that has been going on for so long that it's too incomprehensible to question ( for some).
I only have to prove my claim to you when it affects you (of rather, someone not me). That's it. So just because I know germ theory's a fraud, and you don't, doesn't bother me. It's not my concern. Believe away. Scientific method! A meaningless 'argument'.
Considering where we are (NewZealandDoc’s Newsletter) which I assume to be a serious discussion among peers, or near peers, I make an effort to support my arguments with objective facts. If you don't feel the need that's entirely up to you, but you're not the only one reading this, so this isn't just between you and me.
I believe the onus is to "prove the positive." Especially when the "absence of proof (positive)" is a basis for monopolizing narratives and imposing concrete, arbitrary policies, options, and belief systems on other people. This doesn't just apply to health/medical. The judicial trial "science method" is innocent (nothing) until proven (positive) guilty.
You're confusing two different things. One is the accepted methodology of science, the other is the abuse of science which claims that certain questions are settled. Nothing in science is ever settled, but this singular fact is used indiscriminately in the form of "you can't prove X, therefore X does not exist."
I see this all the time from the Terrain camp, which plays right into the hands of the very people you're objecting to, because it's the exact same argument they use.
Maybe this will help you understand what I'm getting at.
You make a good point as we are still jousting at the same windmill, but that windmill is looking more tatty day by day. It is not only the science and health we are up against the media, the bought politicians and the banks, not to metion all the climate change, transgender etc these issues are there to design policies of humanity control. This entire battle is on so many fronts and understanding the basics are important to those waking up.
I've seen that exact comment -- verbatim or very close to verbatim -- on multiple articles by multiple authors. I've decided it's not legitimate questioning, it's planted and designed to do exactly what it's doing ... create a pointless divide.
I monitor more than a few sites in the vaccine-skeptic world, among them this one. I've noticed that whenever an article focuses specifically on viruses, they never fail to appear. They also consistently fail to provide convincing evidence for their assertions and become hostile when you challenge them on *their* methodology which is the crux of their own argument against virology. For those few that attempt to answer the question "show me the beef" you get plenty of bun, lettuce and tomato and an occasional pickle, but never any beef.
agreed. I asked sincerely on one 'stack why this skirmish was raising ... what exactly is the point since we all (mostly all) agree there was no pandemic of any kind and the jabs were never "vaccines" and had no quality control or real clinical trials. Why even devote energy to a debate about the existence or not of viruses right now at this point? There was no pandemic ... there was a narrative. Generated by the DOD via whoever puppets the DOD. They could have created a narrative from any random symptom and turned it into a reason to jab yourself with a weapon -- that's how powerful their propaganda network was and is.
The sincere answers confirmed my suspicion it was an intentionally planted division device.
I asked one commenter who'd written this same almost verbatim complaint in question here on another 'stack if she'd ever done electrophoresis. She replied "why are you deferring to authority?" Um, the authority of your recollection of being in a lab doing electrophoresis? I realized it's not a human. It's bad AI or something.
Thank you, that was excellently summarized. I must say I resent having been called a liar, an ignoramus and/or controlled opposition. If one is secure in truth one has no need to resort to juvenile aspersions.
You'll get used to it. Try being sympathetic towards Russians, Palestinians, or Muslims in general. It will help you build a tolerance for false accusations and abuse.
all that US truth ministry money didn't just end up in the hands of the tv networks. they saved a bunch of it for piecework shitposts on substack. not so sure that they pay so well, considering the volume of no-such-thing-as-a-virus trolling on any article that even remotely touches on the subject of viruses
And yet here you both are making the only accusations here. Nobody who disbelieves viruses have called you fools, nobody has called you government plants, nobody except some vague posters you allude to has got hostile.
There is a reason it's up for debate. There is a very intelligent rationale behind it. As always it depends on how much one has invested in reality. The truth is a grey area, or the middle way between the two poles.
I'm open to any information that can help me understand why only a handful of viruses can harm us when we have 380 trillion on our bodies at all times. Fascinating eh! Not to mention 38 trillion bacteria and we have no credible way of estimating how many parasitic protozoa, fungi, bacteria, and viruses exist. Yet we can identify the ones we know about by there computer modelling pictures, truly fascinating isn't it.
You might consider meditating on the facts though - the person's "diatribe" was definitely not friendly and an attack, HOWEVER, we must always remember not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
agreed, however there's a whole lot more bathwater than baby in the comment streams and the baby can be discussed with civility after the war has been won, imo.
I wrote a fairly detailed comment somewhere round here on the importance of understanding what a virus actually is.
There is a fundamental reason the virus must not be focussed on too carefully by people who think it's a moot point, because it will make people realise one's soul has to be involved in "a virus", and of course in that case, the playing field changes dramatically.
What was a war of information and false narrative becomes a war of/on the soul.
Modern medicine is all about hard facts and cold biological warfare. The soul can not be quantified and measured except by something nebulous. But what would that nebulous thing possibly be?
in my view, the soul is in charge and can never be not in charge. What we understand of this drama from our human ego's perspective is part of the ever unfolding game of mastery. As my genius physicist dad used to tell me, we understand only a minuscule amount of how the universe works.
I see so many people buffeted helplessly by influences on their choices and decisions - their soul (which I define as the heart/mind axis) is constantly manipulated; women through emotions and desires and men through intellectual (egoic) persuasion and coercion. To my mind the soul of the collective has been captured for the last hundred if not 800 years.
There are various ways to think of it. Traditionally the True Self (capitals) never changes but we rarely get to know it, because our physical self (lower letters) is commanded by the ego.
LOL - it is though. It's a very important point of contention to be solved as it's fundamental to the greater conversation of what kind of world we've been living in. It's not just some fluffy thing to be spoken of when you have leisure time.
The “debate” distracts us from the murderous protocols, the also-murderous lockdowns and destruction of small businesses and the use of overdose deaths (half a million in five years in the US!) to inflate numbers. It allows for another plandemic, because “team worst case scenario” can always say “ if only it hadn’t been rushed/contaminated, or if only we’d used a different protein” etc. As JJ Couey says: intramuscular injection of any substance to augment the immune system is dumb.
as well as from dealing with the real puppeteers and creators of the protocols ... facing the fact it was the DODs running the entire charade and the whole cloth creation of a narrative planned years and years in advance. And that a huge chunk of the human population fell for it. These are the things we don't want to face. But we must.
The debate means something else is going on. Murderous protocols absolutely. Yes.
Viruses are specific to an individual, ie. they can't be 'coughed' on to someone; unless the person being coughed on fears the living hell out of catching something from the cougher, thus developing an illness via psychological distress first and foremost.
(Covid lockdowns would qualify as 'causing a virus' in the individual.)
'Flu is caused by an influence, and influenza is the meaning of both words - 'flu' and 'influence' in English. Yes, all vaccines are really stupid and toxic, like all modern meds. They cause biological illnesses just like the influence of fluoridated water or junk food.
Meanwhile, the soul may be sick but the doctors "treat" the physical body with poison...
Unless one is in an Israeli hospital where they admit the soul is in need of help, and treat accordingly with German New Medicine, whose founder knew the problems in the SOUL cause what we know as a VIRUS, but who was defamed as an anti-semitic scumbag...
I’m not sure about German New medicine, I have had a bit of a look but am probably more inclined to Terrain right now but for sure Allopathic cannot be beaten for being a little worse than useless (i.e. it’s completely malicious).
It took me 8 years of occasional curiosity to come round to it. It's complicatedly simple. Learning is tricky but understanding it once learned it is intuitive and simple.
Fwiw - Terrain is 100% part of the idea: the body must have enough good bacteria, fungi etc. in reserve to be called in to action at a moments notice. Antibiotics are designed to kill this vitally necessary bacteria.
Where are you on viruses being “the tiniest of parasites”? This was supposedly the definition given in every edition of the Merck Manual between the 10th edition in 1961 until the current 20th edition released in 2018.
Dear Doc-- You have now been the recipient of the same vitriol so many others have received. It emerges often during an especially excellent discussion in a comments section relating to some other aspect of the global disaster we are enduring. Thank you for addressing this and for your continued wise and brave efforts toward health freedom, liberty and personal sovereignty. We wrote about the same phenomenon, here: https://gingerbreggin.substack.com/p/virus-or-no-virus-is-that-really
You may or may not be aware of 'Terrain Theory'. Virology is not a science & in fact doesn't stack up. Kiwi Dr Sam Bailey contributed to a book called 'Virus Mania' written by her and other credible people from the field of medicine. For virology to make sense, specifically in this case of the SARS-Cov-2 virus & variants, the spike protein, or any other pathogenic element, would need to be isolated then given to an animal or human. If, subsequently (typically around 3+ days) the symptoms of covid-19 were consistently found in the group that were exposed to the pathogenic element while a control group did not exhibit symptoms of covid-19 then you have shown a strong causal relationship. Virology has never been able to prove this causal relationship. Follow or buy books written by Dr Sam Bailey and/or her husband Dr Mark Bailey to gain insight into the fraud that virology is based on.
I have NOT read "Beauchamp or Pasteur?" (Ethel Hume, in my "cart"), however, someone I respect recently said on a podcast that he didn't find it so black and white or either/or as most of its fans seem to think. And I also respect Sam Bailey, and Tom Cowan.
Dr Ah Kahn Syed's (@arkmedic) substack of 18 October 2023 was stellar, IMHO. It's entitled: "There was no virus" ... and other fairy stories. Keep your focus. It was never about a virus anyway.
Ask him how the Sputnik V vaccine is possible if viruses don't exist. As I'm sure you know, Sputnik V uses an adenovirus as a vector to deliver spike protein DNA to the host cell, so how is that even possible if viruses don't exist? Same goes for Sinovac and a half-dozen other conventional Covid vaccines. They all rely on a precursor virus.
Terrain theory has so many points of failure it's hard to take it seriously at all. I see them constantly hammering away at Koch's postulate as if that proves anything except that it's in desperate need of revision to account for observations made in the 140 years since it was first proposed.
Terrain theory also fails to account for the classic Hawaiian problem of how an isolated population can succumb to a disease like smallpox that didn't exist pre-contact. If you take the documented accounts from Hawaii along with other first contact reports, such as in North America, you have all the data needed for a retrospective study that proves the communicable nature of several diseases, including some of a viral nature.
For brevity's sake, call them the Manufacturing Problem and the Hawaiian Problem. They are both valid attempts to falsify Terrain Theory which I've never gotten a straight answer to. Until those two questions are addressed I don't take Terrain Theory seriously, except as a possible co-factor, but definitely not as a replacement for germ theory which most of its advocates seem to be promoting.
Yeah, the problem with that is finding a control group. How do you determine whether or not someone has been previously exposed to a particular pathogen? Immune responses vary widely across people, including no detectable response or more importantly, no trace of a prior response to exposure. There's a lot of hidden variables here.
There is a fairly good empirical evidence that viruses exist however.
An isolated population with no history of any of the common diseases present in European explorers and colonialist is almost wiped out by them. Explain that with Terrain Theory.
From a strictly scientific view point, one does not require a "virus" as the potential explanation for perceived symptoms you describe. The a priori exclusion of other potential causes would be a fair start before one is compelled to rely on an in silico modelled sequence bereft of provenance and controls?
The purpose of the 'threat' as we all know, and as David Martin so elegantly highlighted in the EU, was to habituate the global populace to shots. This still continues. The psy-ops (James EK et al. 2021 - Yale study) and media handwaving in place, the lock downs and mandates, the fostered division, all this and more were enforced in a bewildering, across-World assault indicative of this absolute intention, as indeed we all experienced. The shot is the immediate mass-weapon of choice.
That so many seemingly well informed and educated individuals appear to uncritically embrace virus theory appears to testify to the effectiveness of the narrative, not of virus theory itself, which is straight-forward to falsify.
Detailed critical scrutiny of the published literature is still (as far as I am aware) a valid means of disabusing oneself from the narrative while simultaneously freeing one from the logical fallacy of appealing to authority?
Thank you. I tend to agree with you but in truth I am deeply skeptical about the non-existence of viruses and covid not being a virus, at least initially. Heck, the deep state could have labeled water as a danger and it would have become a fear-inducing threat! I see the covid man-made virus as the first punch in a two punch combination the more forceful of which is the jab itself.
Thank you Manny, I found myself finally reading at the rapid rate of 'in time learning' in order to further lever open the intellectual crack that was presented by the nonsense of 'in silico' representations of a defined biological entity, namely an obligate, replication competent intra cellular parasite that, (a) is shown in clinical controls to come from an "infected" patient, and (b) is responsible for the asserted pathology (with controls). I assure you, if you haven't already read them, there are ample seminal papers that incontestably illustrate the outright falsifiable methodology masquerading as "science" that would not conceivably make it past the standard required for a school rainbow project, ie for illustrative purposes: influenza viruses (1933); corona virus (1966); canine-parvo virus (1978). I will supply you with the papers. Have fun (unless you're the hapless ferret in 1933)...they're an absolute blast!
It's certainly disheartening but don't worry about it mate, they're just caught in a rabbit hole and are being driven like the vaxx heads were.
In reality I have no clue if there actually are viruses as I believed, whether the terrain theory has merit, whether there is a spike protein or it's EMF driven.
To me its irrelevant because the world needs to control the damage both injuries and limiting further poisoning, gathering information on how this is being done.
Address when you need to and then Ignore them and do your own thing.
I was sick with something in July 2022 a few days after my partner got sick after catching something from a client (she is a remedial massage specialist).
In both of our cases, it definitely felt more intense than any flu I ever had yet passed without any major fuss in about three days.
I am fairly sure she transmitted it (whatever "it" may be) to me.
Tks for continuing fighting for medical freedom. The problem lies in the fascistic gov/ pharma 'fix' for viruses, which is a threat to wellness as well as individual economic welfare, but to go down rabbit holes of viruses not existing at all is a waste. This was good info on flu shot fascism, history/shortcomings (5 min) ~ https://rumble.com/v4i10l0-daily-dose-history-of-the-flu-shot-with-dr.-peterson-pierre.html
Hi Doc. It looks like you have attracted every extremist and flat earther in town. 99% of people think like you, that many infections are transmitted by viruses that can replicate in hosts. Some people think that having more strident views makes one more correct, but dont fall for that. I have accepted that there are Terrain theory advocates, like Dr Bailey, who wont discuss their beliefs, but I would suggest that their arguments are too weak to warrant discussion. I have some good examples of virus theory vs Terrain theory if you are interested.
People are preoccupied with either/or outcomes, and fail to realize that exclusive reasoning is wrong, and reductionist thinking wont give you the right answer. Every person has some kind of immune system, and that provides the hosts terrain, that the germs and pathogens have to overcome to make the person sick. Plenty of people have good enough terrain and immunity to resist most germs most of the time, so both terrain theory and germ theory are important. A good example is 66 years ago, before vaccinations arrived to change our immune terrain forever, I was born with natural immunity to measles and chicken pox, inherited from my mum. That inherited natural immunity provided me with resistance to measles and pox germs for long enough till I was old enough to have healthy immune response to those germs. I think before vaccinations came along, the role of inherited immunity in germ theory and terrain theory was all a lot clearer. I could come up with better examples if I wrote more. There are plenty of contributing factors, like good diet, and zinc, and vit C and exercise, but the biggest change to ones terrain comes from getting older. Hormone activity is the biggest factor in staying healthy, because it rules everything else, and I am currently researching using hormones to provide Chi. Chi is like fertilizer for ones terrain.
I have no problem listening to an alternate view. We have that right to an opinion. There has been so much said on media we need a God-like discernment or we could be deceived.
The writer of this discussion piece may be right. A couple of years ago, a guy in Canada challenged the health authorities to prove there was a covid19 virus AND he won the case. Somewhere, I've got a copy of the documentation stored. At that stage, in the scamdemic, they could not prove it existed. Just saying.
Then there's Christine Massey (Canadian), who's been sending out repeated FOI requests for actual concrete proof to health authorities all over the world.
Exactly. We all have different people we listen to on social media. It's impossible to keep track of every single fact. That's why we need an open ear policy.
What a waste of time and effort. Who cares if something or other is called a virus? Next time you get a cold sore, or shingles or genital herpes, don't try to treat it because it is just a detox! Sure it IS a detox AS WELL, but it is a very peculiar form of detox. And you can still canoodle with your partner or your baby because they won't catch anything, will they? Go on, prove to me that your baby is safe around someone with shingles, and your lover won't catch herpes from you.
Just a thought. Virology could well be theoretical only. Many cancers react to Parasitic treatments such as Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine, which also offer great responses in the treatment of symptomatic manifestations of "coronaviral infections". Even Fauci discovered and wrote a paper on it several years before the "scamplandemonic" which he later ignored, profiting greatly from the 'Operation Warp Speed" farce.
Nice, rational article! There is a very balanced viewpoint on this in one of PANDA's recent statement on the view of the whole Covid narrative. You may want to read this here:
Yes, I totally agree. I followed Ionnides' work and also Michael Levitt. Denis Rancourt also came out in early 2020 and showed that seasonality on its own showed that something was fishy. His recent papers on all cause mortality prove conclusively that there was no pandemic caused by any kind of novel virus, bug or pathogen. PANDA has been my source of rationality right from the beginning of the scam!
I'm in South Africa, and I have family and friends in NZ. I do see some awakening of the average citizens in your country, so I really hope that enough people wake up to put an end to the corrupt government actions. Thank you for your efforts and also those like Voices for Freedom. It is making a difference!
You must be getting sick of this, but I think you're fighting a losing battle. People are angry because they know they've been lied to their whole lives. Harmful lies. I suspect you can expect more of the same if you continue to hold this, to my mind unsustainable, line.
I know there's no such thing as a virus; I've read the so-called isolation papers right back to Enders, and I'm more than 'qualified' to read these papers and frankly they're junk. If an employee came to me (Chemical Engineering) with the quality of analysis every one of these papers show I would 1) give them a chance to get their method and analysis is order, then 2) if they proceeded with the same nonsense I'd sack them. And quick smart.
So Emanuel, sorry to say your profession has been destroyed because the people who should have done the work were corrupt and fraudulent. There it is. I'm not one of those strident types who will abuse you. Nor will I be anonymous (my substack is my name). But if anyone in your 'profession' are in my hearing and trying to push this virology pseudoscience fiction, you can be assured I will have my say. And I will be strident.
If engineers produced the same quality of 'science' as medicine, bridges would collapse, buildings topple, and planes fall out of the sky. Every day.
Thanks, I respect your opinion.
I also know that when I've gotten a cold or flu, from whatever cause, that vitamin c and zinc have worked wonders for symptoms and duration of illness.
And I agree completely with Poisoned kiwi. I too have looked at the evidence a lot (for two years or more more or less full time 2020-2022). Regardless of what you think of some of the no virus people the plain fact of the matter is that no virus has ever been isolated. And I’m not strident in holding that position as it’s fact.
Stefan Lanka has a hypothesis on Black Death that makes sense to me. Not based on science but on the historical record. Collapse of trade routes leading to hunger and to State violence. In addition the siege of Athens even further back which is somewhat blamed on plague but honestly starvation is the more likely culprit with war both outside and inside the walls the other contributor.
In my view viruses (previously known as germs) were invented for crowd control and for weeding out the poor. They’re associated right now with genocide. The only thing that they infect are our thoughts.
I’m loathe to put up my qualifications here as it’s not relevant so I’ll just say that the smartest man that I’ve seen on viruses likely doesn’t have any degree.
Where are you on viruses being “the tiniest of parasites”? This is supposedly the definition given in every edition of the printed Merck Manual since the 10th edition in 1961 up to and including the current 20th edition released in 2018.
https://www.wiley.com/en-us/The+Merck+Manual+of+Diagnosis+and+Therapy%2C+20th+Edition-p-978091191042
This person claims to have looked through each edition: https://twitter.com/Linda4CVINE/status/1773323207207977312
The online version appears to make no such claim any longer: instead “small infectious organisms”.
https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/multimedia/table/types-of-infectious-organisms
Presumably since 2018 they finally worked out once and for all that viruses are not parasites…
Brian, I can't believe I'm still having this conversation. I knew germ theory was a fraud before covaids. It's in the language.
Re: your question. You better now define a 'parasite'.
It's a fraud. Easily provable, but takes time. Starting with the name. Virus = toxin. As for 'organism' even virology for all its fraud says a 'virus' is not living (one of the many many tells to the fraud). You might be interested in the English translation of 'scientific'. Sci enti fic. "Know that it is fiction" - https://www.webtran.eu/latin_english_translator/
Have a look at the 1953 Enders paper which got modern germ theory/virology started. More fraud. That's probably too harsh. Enders, trying to 'isolate' a 'virus', recognised there was no difference between his control and his 'virus'. I guess others ran with it.
I’ve only started looking in earnest these last few years. First time I even heard of germ vs terrain was RFK Jr’s Fauci book. Now so far I have done Dissolving Illusions, Turtles All The Way Down, Virus Mania, the Viral Delusion series, Terrain the Movie, countless pods with the bright lights of the field, and just started Can You Catch A Cold? by Dan Roytas.
That there has been unimaginable, malevolent fraud is beyond doubt. It’s the sheer omniscience, scale and full spectrum ubiquity that is incomprehensible.
Good stuff. I'm lucky. I got on to germ theory 30 years ago. And the magnitude of the frauds are far far bigger than germ theory. Have a look at my financial reset series for only one element affecting NZ directly. And the 'best' - the biggest fraud - is yet to come.
https://craighutchinson.substack.com/p/nz-financial-resets
Are you a scientist? I can give you some leads to look at if you're interested, and nearly any area of science you want! Shocking (for someone like me who trained in this stuff) but true.
Thanks for the link. Will certainly check that out. Not a scientist, just a curious skeptic and lifelong lover of learning. Do please share anything you consider ammunition against that which we know has been planned and is now in motion.
I'm not getting the same result with the translation Poisoned Kiwi.
I like the idea of translating English to Latin to English.
That's what we are doing here, right?
Strange. I've just checked and get same as the other day. Have a look here.
https://substack.com/@thepoisonedkiwi/note/c-53820279
Thank you
My mistake was putting in "scientific" when should have been sci enti fic
Good one PK!
Good to hear. I'm not sure who you are but I understood viruses (sic) were specific to the individual in their illness, and generally speaking, if not poisoned by an external 'influenza' also known as "influence" - like the casual 'flu jab - one generally develops illness through psychological distress. (Covid lockdowns would qualify as 'causing a virus' in the individual.)
In German New Medicine it is believed the soul faces problems that can sometimes become prolonged and stressful like a divorce for example or an ill child, a lockdown, or something more acute and painful, like the death of a loved one.
In each case of the souls distress the brain must continue to function, so places the stress in a corresponding organ. Once the psychological stressor has been resolved, the mind/heart axis - or soul - becomes freed and the organ can then heal, which presents as what we call an illness.
This isn't pseudo-science either, Ryke Hamer developed his ideas before the technology was developed to prove them. CT scans show the shock in the brain as round 'foci' which correspond to specific areas of the body. Doctor Hamer became so good at understanding what sort of soul trouble aligned with which organ that he could tell the patient what had happened just by their illnesses location.
The body's ability to heal depends on whether or not the body has enough in reserve to bounce back quickly. In our current medical chaos one discerns the physical 'recovering symptoms' as its own starting point of an illness rather than the recovery phase of a soul problem, thus it's worthy of a doctors attention... where genuine medical poisoning takes place.
A doctors diagnosis and prognosis also contributes to secondary soul shocks which also must then be resolved on top of the chemical toxicity of modern meds..
German New Medicine is pretty much what I'm (trying) to do for my poisoning. I agree with you. The "psychological stressor" is one of the biggest (probably the biggest, but I have no imperial evidence). Great comment.
"I know there's no such thing as a virus"
Sorry but that statement is in the same category as "all swans are white." You cannot prove a negative. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Any good scientist knows this.
No. I can say "I know..." anything. But have it your way. I could have said 'the hypothesis of the existence of a virus has never been proven, all the evidence presented is pure and utter nonsense'. But neither am I going to argue the philosophy of science.
There's no point in trying to get people to question the existence of virii.
They know that it's something that they should look into, but until they actually bother, well if they don't have any questions they won't see any answers.
There's plenty of information for anyone who has an inkling that the virus thing could be a big con; a con that has been going on for so long that it's too incomprehensible to question ( for some).
It's not "my way" it's the science method. When you make a claim to knowledge you have to substantiate it. Otherwise it's just hand waving.
I only have to prove my claim to you when it affects you (of rather, someone not me). That's it. So just because I know germ theory's a fraud, and you don't, doesn't bother me. It's not my concern. Believe away. Scientific method! A meaningless 'argument'.
Considering where we are (NewZealandDoc’s Newsletter) which I assume to be a serious discussion among peers, or near peers, I make an effort to support my arguments with objective facts. If you don't feel the need that's entirely up to you, but you're not the only one reading this, so this isn't just between you and me.
Viruses are fiction. This is an objective fact.
I believe the onus is to "prove the positive." Especially when the "absence of proof (positive)" is a basis for monopolizing narratives and imposing concrete, arbitrary policies, options, and belief systems on other people. This doesn't just apply to health/medical. The judicial trial "science method" is innocent (nothing) until proven (positive) guilty.
You're confusing two different things. One is the accepted methodology of science, the other is the abuse of science which claims that certain questions are settled. Nothing in science is ever settled, but this singular fact is used indiscriminately in the form of "you can't prove X, therefore X does not exist."
I see this all the time from the Terrain camp, which plays right into the hands of the very people you're objecting to, because it's the exact same argument they use.
Maybe this will help you understand what I'm getting at.
https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/thomas-s-kuhn/pdf-epub-the-structure-of-scientific-revolutions-download-60984829539/
You make a good point as we are still jousting at the same windmill, but that windmill is looking more tatty day by day. It is not only the science and health we are up against the media, the bought politicians and the banks, not to metion all the climate change, transgender etc these issues are there to design policies of humanity control. This entire battle is on so many fronts and understanding the basics are important to those waking up.
I'm just glad I don't have to explain this to a child. Lot's happening.
I've seen that exact comment -- verbatim or very close to verbatim -- on multiple articles by multiple authors. I've decided it's not legitimate questioning, it's planted and designed to do exactly what it's doing ... create a pointless divide.
I monitor more than a few sites in the vaccine-skeptic world, among them this one. I've noticed that whenever an article focuses specifically on viruses, they never fail to appear. They also consistently fail to provide convincing evidence for their assertions and become hostile when you challenge them on *their* methodology which is the crux of their own argument against virology. For those few that attempt to answer the question "show me the beef" you get plenty of bun, lettuce and tomato and an occasional pickle, but never any beef.
agreed. I asked sincerely on one 'stack why this skirmish was raising ... what exactly is the point since we all (mostly all) agree there was no pandemic of any kind and the jabs were never "vaccines" and had no quality control or real clinical trials. Why even devote energy to a debate about the existence or not of viruses right now at this point? There was no pandemic ... there was a narrative. Generated by the DOD via whoever puppets the DOD. They could have created a narrative from any random symptom and turned it into a reason to jab yourself with a weapon -- that's how powerful their propaganda network was and is.
The sincere answers confirmed my suspicion it was an intentionally planted division device.
I asked one commenter who'd written this same almost verbatim complaint in question here on another 'stack if she'd ever done electrophoresis. She replied "why are you deferring to authority?" Um, the authority of your recollection of being in a lab doing electrophoresis? I realized it's not a human. It's bad AI or something.
Thank you, that was excellently summarized. I must say I resent having been called a liar, an ignoramus and/or controlled opposition. If one is secure in truth one has no need to resort to juvenile aspersions.
It appears AI may be fairly juvenile and insecure in itself....
Haha, A I has to work out how it's going to deal with natural stupidity, there is so much of it about.
or just programmed that way lol.
You'll get used to it. Try being sympathetic towards Russians, Palestinians, or Muslims in general. It will help you build a tolerance for false accusations and abuse.
yeah, they know exactly how to push buttons and trigger defensiveness. That's one of the intentions -- to throw people off.
all that US truth ministry money didn't just end up in the hands of the tv networks. they saved a bunch of it for piecework shitposts on substack. not so sure that they pay so well, considering the volume of no-such-thing-as-a-virus trolling on any article that even remotely touches on the subject of viruses
And yet here you both are making the only accusations here. Nobody who disbelieves viruses have called you fools, nobody has called you government plants, nobody except some vague posters you allude to has got hostile.
Projection?
There is a reason it's up for debate. There is a very intelligent rationale behind it. As always it depends on how much one has invested in reality. The truth is a grey area, or the middle way between the two poles.
I'm open to any information that can help me understand why only a handful of viruses can harm us when we have 380 trillion on our bodies at all times. Fascinating eh! Not to mention 38 trillion bacteria and we have no credible way of estimating how many parasitic protozoa, fungi, bacteria, and viruses exist. Yet we can identify the ones we know about by there computer modelling pictures, truly fascinating isn't it.
You might consider meditating on the facts though - the person's "diatribe" was definitely not friendly and an attack, HOWEVER, we must always remember not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
agreed, however there's a whole lot more bathwater than baby in the comment streams and the baby can be discussed with civility after the war has been won, imo.
I wrote a fairly detailed comment somewhere round here on the importance of understanding what a virus actually is.
There is a fundamental reason the virus must not be focussed on too carefully by people who think it's a moot point, because it will make people realise one's soul has to be involved in "a virus", and of course in that case, the playing field changes dramatically.
What was a war of information and false narrative becomes a war of/on the soul.
Modern medicine is all about hard facts and cold biological warfare. The soul can not be quantified and measured except by something nebulous. But what would that nebulous thing possibly be?
in my view, the soul is in charge and can never be not in charge. What we understand of this drama from our human ego's perspective is part of the ever unfolding game of mastery. As my genius physicist dad used to tell me, we understand only a minuscule amount of how the universe works.
I see so many people buffeted helplessly by influences on their choices and decisions - their soul (which I define as the heart/mind axis) is constantly manipulated; women through emotions and desires and men through intellectual (egoic) persuasion and coercion. To my mind the soul of the collective has been captured for the last hundred if not 800 years.
There are various ways to think of it. Traditionally the True Self (capitals) never changes but we rarely get to know it, because our physical self (lower letters) is commanded by the ego.
But each to their own. :)
I do agree with that 100%.
But you can't ignore the baby until YOU are ready to attend to it, ya know?
the baby will be fine. it's not a real baby. it's theoretical convo.
LOL - it is though. It's a very important point of contention to be solved as it's fundamental to the greater conversation of what kind of world we've been living in. It's not just some fluffy thing to be spoken of when you have leisure time.
hahaha. okay you go have that convo. Meanwhile I'm going to win this war.
Agree
The “debate” distracts us from the murderous protocols, the also-murderous lockdowns and destruction of small businesses and the use of overdose deaths (half a million in five years in the US!) to inflate numbers. It allows for another plandemic, because “team worst case scenario” can always say “ if only it hadn’t been rushed/contaminated, or if only we’d used a different protein” etc. As JJ Couey says: intramuscular injection of any substance to augment the immune system is dumb.
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as well as from dealing with the real puppeteers and creators of the protocols ... facing the fact it was the DODs running the entire charade and the whole cloth creation of a narrative planned years and years in advance. And that a huge chunk of the human population fell for it. These are the things we don't want to face. But we must.
The debate means something else is going on. Murderous protocols absolutely. Yes.
Viruses are specific to an individual, ie. they can't be 'coughed' on to someone; unless the person being coughed on fears the living hell out of catching something from the cougher, thus developing an illness via psychological distress first and foremost.
(Covid lockdowns would qualify as 'causing a virus' in the individual.)
'Flu is caused by an influence, and influenza is the meaning of both words - 'flu' and 'influence' in English. Yes, all vaccines are really stupid and toxic, like all modern meds. They cause biological illnesses just like the influence of fluoridated water or junk food.
Meanwhile, the soul may be sick but the doctors "treat" the physical body with poison...
Unless one is in an Israeli hospital where they admit the soul is in need of help, and treat accordingly with German New Medicine, whose founder knew the problems in the SOUL cause what we know as a VIRUS, but who was defamed as an anti-semitic scumbag...
I’m not sure about German New medicine, I have had a bit of a look but am probably more inclined to Terrain right now but for sure Allopathic cannot be beaten for being a little worse than useless (i.e. it’s completely malicious).
It took me 8 years of occasional curiosity to come round to it. It's complicatedly simple. Learning is tricky but understanding it once learned it is intuitive and simple.
Fwiw - Terrain is 100% part of the idea: the body must have enough good bacteria, fungi etc. in reserve to be called in to action at a moments notice. Antibiotics are designed to kill this vitally necessary bacteria.
*salutes the jar of sauerkraut*
Where are you on viruses being “the tiniest of parasites”? This was supposedly the definition given in every edition of the Merck Manual between the 10th edition in 1961 until the current 20th edition released in 2018.
https://www.wiley.com/en-us/The+Merck+Manual+of+Diagnosis+and+Therapy%2C+20th+Edition-p-978091191042
The online equivalent appears to make no such claim.
My most recent post was on viruses. Nobody wants to know, but that's irrelevant. Nothing can be genuinely understood on a superficial level. Nothing.
https://ariaveritas.substack.com/publish/post/142475902
Dear Doc-- You have now been the recipient of the same vitriol so many others have received. It emerges often during an especially excellent discussion in a comments section relating to some other aspect of the global disaster we are enduring. Thank you for addressing this and for your continued wise and brave efforts toward health freedom, liberty and personal sovereignty. We wrote about the same phenomenon, here: https://gingerbreggin.substack.com/p/virus-or-no-virus-is-that-really
thank you dear souls, I have an inkling of what you've been through ... much appreciated, and excellent post on your end too, as usual!
You may or may not be aware of 'Terrain Theory'. Virology is not a science & in fact doesn't stack up. Kiwi Dr Sam Bailey contributed to a book called 'Virus Mania' written by her and other credible people from the field of medicine. For virology to make sense, specifically in this case of the SARS-Cov-2 virus & variants, the spike protein, or any other pathogenic element, would need to be isolated then given to an animal or human. If, subsequently (typically around 3+ days) the symptoms of covid-19 were consistently found in the group that were exposed to the pathogenic element while a control group did not exhibit symptoms of covid-19 then you have shown a strong causal relationship. Virology has never been able to prove this causal relationship. Follow or buy books written by Dr Sam Bailey and/or her husband Dr Mark Bailey to gain insight into the fraud that virology is based on.
I'm not sold fully on terrain theory and I know Sam's work, which I respect.
I have NOT read "Beauchamp or Pasteur?" (Ethel Hume, in my "cart"), however, someone I respect recently said on a podcast that he didn't find it so black and white or either/or as most of its fans seem to think. And I also respect Sam Bailey, and Tom Cowan.
Dr Ah Kahn Syed's (@arkmedic) substack of 18 October 2023 was stellar, IMHO. It's entitled: "There was no virus" ... and other fairy stories. Keep your focus. It was never about a virus anyway.
https://www.arkmedic.info/p/there-was-no-virus
Wow! Thank you! That is one excellent resource. Keep your focus indeed!
Ask him how the Sputnik V vaccine is possible if viruses don't exist. As I'm sure you know, Sputnik V uses an adenovirus as a vector to deliver spike protein DNA to the host cell, so how is that even possible if viruses don't exist? Same goes for Sinovac and a half-dozen other conventional Covid vaccines. They all rely on a precursor virus.
Terrain theory has so many points of failure it's hard to take it seriously at all. I see them constantly hammering away at Koch's postulate as if that proves anything except that it's in desperate need of revision to account for observations made in the 140 years since it was first proposed.
Terrain theory also fails to account for the classic Hawaiian problem of how an isolated population can succumb to a disease like smallpox that didn't exist pre-contact. If you take the documented accounts from Hawaii along with other first contact reports, such as in North America, you have all the data needed for a retrospective study that proves the communicable nature of several diseases, including some of a viral nature.
For brevity's sake, call them the Manufacturing Problem and the Hawaiian Problem. They are both valid attempts to falsify Terrain Theory which I've never gotten a straight answer to. Until those two questions are addressed I don't take Terrain Theory seriously, except as a possible co-factor, but definitely not as a replacement for germ theory which most of its advocates seem to be promoting.
The "smallpox" blankets were laced with arsenic is one theory I've heard.
Yeah, the problem with that is finding a control group. How do you determine whether or not someone has been previously exposed to a particular pathogen? Immune responses vary widely across people, including no detectable response or more importantly, no trace of a prior response to exposure. There's a lot of hidden variables here.
There is a fairly good empirical evidence that viruses exist however.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_epidemic_disease_in_Hawaii
An isolated population with no history of any of the common diseases present in European explorers and colonialist is almost wiped out by them. Explain that with Terrain Theory.
Manny, serendipitously, I posted this yesterday.
https://drlatusdextro.substack.com/p/2020-the-rise-of-the-stooges
From a strictly scientific view point, one does not require a "virus" as the potential explanation for perceived symptoms you describe. The a priori exclusion of other potential causes would be a fair start before one is compelled to rely on an in silico modelled sequence bereft of provenance and controls?
The purpose of the 'threat' as we all know, and as David Martin so elegantly highlighted in the EU, was to habituate the global populace to shots. This still continues. The psy-ops (James EK et al. 2021 - Yale study) and media handwaving in place, the lock downs and mandates, the fostered division, all this and more were enforced in a bewildering, across-World assault indicative of this absolute intention, as indeed we all experienced. The shot is the immediate mass-weapon of choice.
That so many seemingly well informed and educated individuals appear to uncritically embrace virus theory appears to testify to the effectiveness of the narrative, not of virus theory itself, which is straight-forward to falsify.
Detailed critical scrutiny of the published literature is still (as far as I am aware) a valid means of disabusing oneself from the narrative while simultaneously freeing one from the logical fallacy of appealing to authority?
Thank you. I tend to agree with you but in truth I am deeply skeptical about the non-existence of viruses and covid not being a virus, at least initially. Heck, the deep state could have labeled water as a danger and it would have become a fear-inducing threat! I see the covid man-made virus as the first punch in a two punch combination the more forceful of which is the jab itself.
Thank you Manny, I found myself finally reading at the rapid rate of 'in time learning' in order to further lever open the intellectual crack that was presented by the nonsense of 'in silico' representations of a defined biological entity, namely an obligate, replication competent intra cellular parasite that, (a) is shown in clinical controls to come from an "infected" patient, and (b) is responsible for the asserted pathology (with controls). I assure you, if you haven't already read them, there are ample seminal papers that incontestably illustrate the outright falsifiable methodology masquerading as "science" that would not conceivably make it past the standard required for a school rainbow project, ie for illustrative purposes: influenza viruses (1933); corona virus (1966); canine-parvo virus (1978). I will supply you with the papers. Have fun (unless you're the hapless ferret in 1933)...they're an absolute blast!
It's certainly disheartening but don't worry about it mate, they're just caught in a rabbit hole and are being driven like the vaxx heads were.
In reality I have no clue if there actually are viruses as I believed, whether the terrain theory has merit, whether there is a spike protein or it's EMF driven.
To me its irrelevant because the world needs to control the damage both injuries and limiting further poisoning, gathering information on how this is being done.
Address when you need to and then Ignore them and do your own thing.
Even though I don't agree with your ideas of what happened, I still enjoy a lot of your insights and learn from you.
I don't get why people get so divisive...
https://robc137.substack.com/p/carey-wedler-save-the-world-stop
thank you ... yes, there is always difference and that is okay as long as we are civil about it all
I was sick with something in July 2022 a few days after my partner got sick after catching something from a client (she is a remedial massage specialist).
In both of our cases, it definitely felt more intense than any flu I ever had yet passed without any major fuss in about three days.
I am fairly sure she transmitted it (whatever "it" may be) to me.
None of us had any reinfections since.
What was that?
Covid
What is Covid?
Tks for continuing fighting for medical freedom. The problem lies in the fascistic gov/ pharma 'fix' for viruses, which is a threat to wellness as well as individual economic welfare, but to go down rabbit holes of viruses not existing at all is a waste. This was good info on flu shot fascism, history/shortcomings (5 min) ~ https://rumble.com/v4i10l0-daily-dose-history-of-the-flu-shot-with-dr.-peterson-pierre.html
Hi Doc. It looks like you have attracted every extremist and flat earther in town. 99% of people think like you, that many infections are transmitted by viruses that can replicate in hosts. Some people think that having more strident views makes one more correct, but dont fall for that. I have accepted that there are Terrain theory advocates, like Dr Bailey, who wont discuss their beliefs, but I would suggest that their arguments are too weak to warrant discussion. I have some good examples of virus theory vs Terrain theory if you are interested.
thank you -- and I'd love to see your material, Mark -- much appreciated
People are preoccupied with either/or outcomes, and fail to realize that exclusive reasoning is wrong, and reductionist thinking wont give you the right answer. Every person has some kind of immune system, and that provides the hosts terrain, that the germs and pathogens have to overcome to make the person sick. Plenty of people have good enough terrain and immunity to resist most germs most of the time, so both terrain theory and germ theory are important. A good example is 66 years ago, before vaccinations arrived to change our immune terrain forever, I was born with natural immunity to measles and chicken pox, inherited from my mum. That inherited natural immunity provided me with resistance to measles and pox germs for long enough till I was old enough to have healthy immune response to those germs. I think before vaccinations came along, the role of inherited immunity in germ theory and terrain theory was all a lot clearer. I could come up with better examples if I wrote more. There are plenty of contributing factors, like good diet, and zinc, and vit C and exercise, but the biggest change to ones terrain comes from getting older. Hormone activity is the biggest factor in staying healthy, because it rules everything else, and I am currently researching using hormones to provide Chi. Chi is like fertilizer for ones terrain.
I have no problem listening to an alternate view. We have that right to an opinion. There has been so much said on media we need a God-like discernment or we could be deceived.
The writer of this discussion piece may be right. A couple of years ago, a guy in Canada challenged the health authorities to prove there was a covid19 virus AND he won the case. Somewhere, I've got a copy of the documentation stored. At that stage, in the scamdemic, they could not prove it existed. Just saying.
Then there's Christine Massey (Canadian), who's been sending out repeated FOI requests for actual concrete proof to health authorities all over the world.
Exactly. We all have different people we listen to on social media. It's impossible to keep track of every single fact. That's why we need an open ear policy.
What a waste of time and effort. Who cares if something or other is called a virus? Next time you get a cold sore, or shingles or genital herpes, don't try to treat it because it is just a detox! Sure it IS a detox AS WELL, but it is a very peculiar form of detox. And you can still canoodle with your partner or your baby because they won't catch anything, will they? Go on, prove to me that your baby is safe around someone with shingles, and your lover won't catch herpes from you.
Just a thought. Virology could well be theoretical only. Many cancers react to Parasitic treatments such as Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine, which also offer great responses in the treatment of symptomatic manifestations of "coronaviral infections". Even Fauci discovered and wrote a paper on it several years before the "scamplandemonic" which he later ignored, profiting greatly from the 'Operation Warp Speed" farce.
It's good to have an open mind to other theories, and then discern for ourselves.
How else can we eventually come to the truth.
What ever that is.
https://open.substack.com/pub/markneugebauer/p/covid-19-pushing-back-on-the-lab?r=yi4k6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Hi Emmanuel,
Nice, rational article! There is a very balanced viewpoint on this in one of PANDA's recent statement on the view of the whole Covid narrative. You may want to read this here:
https://pandata.org/position-covid-era/
Thank you, and excellent article. Yes there was no pandemic and we knew this as early as March 2020 via Dr John Ioannidis' work.
Yes, I totally agree. I followed Ionnides' work and also Michael Levitt. Denis Rancourt also came out in early 2020 and showed that seasonality on its own showed that something was fishy. His recent papers on all cause mortality prove conclusively that there was no pandemic caused by any kind of novel virus, bug or pathogen. PANDA has been my source of rationality right from the beginning of the scam!
I'm in South Africa, and I have family and friends in NZ. I do see some awakening of the average citizens in your country, so I really hope that enough people wake up to put an end to the corrupt government actions. Thank you for your efforts and also those like Voices for Freedom. It is making a difference!
https://www.thepressandthepublic.com/post/perspectives-on-the-pandemic-i